A change is as good as a holiday, or is this now finally the END?

Question

Our country has foresee the end of the road so many times its scary. Here are the things I can remember.

First it was the change of the liquor act, people of all races can now drink.... This is was supposed to be the end, we are back to the stone - age. Second the abolition of the pass laws, even worse our country is now up in flames, so can we go on... Every time we were supposed to self destruct. Three party government ! ANC legal ! Mandela Free ! Nelson Mandela President ! Trevor Manual Minister of finance !

Nothing Happend, we are still here.

And now Zuma to become president !!! Have the ANC brainwashed the whole planet, including economic markets for the last 30 or so years for this final showdown, the proverbial sword in the heart ?

Sure, my hometown Pretoria is a warzone in terms of crime, I've lost business, money, clients, and friends due to crime, but I dont underestimate the resilience of the majority of law abiding fellow South Africans.

Answer 1

It was known from the day that Nelson Mandela was released from prison that the beginning of the end and the death of civilisation was upon South Africans.

Only the deluded and irrational clung to the belief that majority rule in South Africa would be any different from the disasters of every other African nation that had achieved African majority rule.

Most reasonable persons had anticipated the decay into third world anarchy to be slow and painful and accelerating after 20 - 25 years, we are now in that phase of acceleration of decay and sadly it hasn't taken us 20 - 25 years to get there, only 14.

If you cannot read the writing on the wall you should have your head examined. One needs only to look at the newly elected ANC National Executive Committeee and National Working Committe to observe that the ANC is now controlled by criminals, left wing radicals, racists and communists, and is led by a hardened and uneducated racist criminal in the shape of Zuma.

You can ignore reality for as long as you wish, the sad fact is that time has caught up with South Africans and the decay we have already observed and the violence of the last 14 years is going to dramatically increase in the coming years until we resemble our neighbour to the north.

Education, roads and transport, health care, safety, infrastructure, electricity supply, water supply, home affairs, law and order and many more departments of S.A. life are already falling apart and will soon be destroyed beyond repair.

That is the African reality and no amount of wishful thinking and optimism on your part or anyone elses will divert South Africa from her now democratically chosen destiny.

Answer 2

I agree with all you said. It is funny how a slow decline is difficult to monitor. I think the old analogy of dropping a crab into a boiling pot applies to South Africa. The decline has been gradual and we have become blind to it, adapting along the way.

Look at Mozambique, If you ask anyone that has been there for the first time what it is like, they will generally have a positive response. If you ask someone that grew up there and recently returned for the first time, they are shocked at how everything they remembered has been destroyed and describe it as a giant slum. I don't think we will collapse overnight, It will be a series of gradual steps. We are definitely headed that way with our current leadership. As for foreign investment, South Africa has been bundled together with emerging market category. Due to that and Gold/platinum and so on our economy is inversely proportional to the American Dollar. So during short periods of international instability we get a investment boost. The investment is removed just as fast once things stabalise. As for the other emerging market countries, they have outperformed us hands down. My impression is that we have been doing ok purely by association and only slightly by merit. All South Africans (Black and white) should travel to all the old colonial cities in Africa so that we can see where we are headed and maybe we will take actions to prevent it from happening here.

Answer 3

Wow, I think Odie says it best - and if anyone thinks that the country and therefore the government and the population is not on a slippery slope downwards then where have you been for the last 10 years?



None of the things you mention will be the nail in the coffin - no big thing will do it and I, in fact, think that Nelson Mandela was good for SA.



But the truth is that the infrustructure is fraying and like cloth the fraying begins on thread at a time so that for ages you don't notice the hole is forming then suddenly a final threat goes and there the hole is - huge, like Kimberley, and by then there is no fixing it !!!!!!



I am not sure we have lost enough threads yet, but we will. Its too far along now.

Answer 4

In most sub-Saharan countries it's not one particular event (with perhaps the exception of Zimbabwe and the removal of the white farmers, and the removal of Asians and Europeans in Uganda by Amin) it's rather a combination of events.



If you're looking for one particular event to say "Right, Now we are scr&wed" I'm not sure that that's going to happen.

You need to look at the broader picture.



It will continue to be the slow decline towards the rest of sub-Saharan standards as most predict.



You have to ask yourself how do you think you will enjoy living in SA in 10 years time knowing that it's going to be a lot worse than it is now.

We all get used to things in life, but do you really want to get used to that?

Answer 5

It is not foolish to be optimistic but it is criminal to ignore the obvious and put your entire family at risk. Even when Zuma is President you will still be there for as long as he wants you there. Zimbabwe still has about 30,000 Whites so you will still be able to exist if you survive but that is what you face -survival,existence and not an enjoyable life.

You choice but millions of others made the right one in my mind.

Answer 6

I'm sort of confused about what you are trying to say/ask...



In a previous question you seemed all for South africa and its possibilities, and now you seem to be seeing the worst in it. You're contradicting yourself dude. I'm willing to be corrected if I am wrong, please dont be afraid to.



We are slowly going to the pits, but treating people in an inferior manner in their own home wasnt a good thing either. Yes the past regime did offer "some" good, but it wasnt the best way either.

Answer 7

I also life in Pretoria and i hope you are right not to underestimate fellow law abiding people, but like we say in Afrikaans die skrif is aan die muur